The Light Lab Podcast

We (Rabbi Josh Warshawsky, Cantor Ellen Dreskin, Eliana Light, and special guests) believe that there is so much insight to be found in Jewish sacred heritage by holding the gems of our liturgy to the light. We see the immense value of personal, heart-opening, empathy-expanding prayer practice. And we love to talk about both!

Episode 45: Shalom Rav (with Cantor Jeff Klepper)
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Episode 45: Shalom Rav (with Cantor Jeff Klepper)

This week, Eliana, Ellen, & Josh explore the afternoon and evening peace prayer, Shalom Rav, with our very special guest, Cantor Jeff Klepper! Topics include Burt’s bees, the 1960s, and Jeff’s Jewish journey. Plus we get to listen in to the composing of the classic melody for Shalom Rav. What a treat!

Where are you feeling abundance in your life?

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Episode 43: Sim Shalom (with Rabbi Noah Diamondstein)
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Episode 43: Sim Shalom (with Rabbi Noah Diamondstein)

This week, Eliana & Ellen are joined by very special guest Rabbi Noah Diamondstein to explore Sim Shalom! We talk about “Everything, Everywhere, All at Once,” Paul Simon, the Force, and what “Shalom” is anyway. Plus, Noah shares the story behind his own beautiful melody for Sim Shalom and plays it for us live. What a treat!

How is your “Shalom” today?

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Episode 33: From Narrowness to Freedom with Rabbi Minna Bromberg, PhD
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Episode 33: From Narrowness to Freedom with Rabbi Minna Bromberg, PhD

Today we’re so honored to share our interview with Rabbi Minna Bromberg, PhD. Rabbi Bromberg is the founder and president of Fat Torah, an initiative dedicated to ending weight stigma in the Jewish community and raising up body liberation through a Jewish lens. Fat Torah is also a community with a presence on facebook for Jewish fat folks and allies, a first of its kind. Rabbi Bromberg shares her t’fillah and body liberation journey, what inspired Fat Torah (it involves a song leader and a jelly doughnut), and how to make our prayer spaces inclusive for fat folks.

How can we see all bodies as reflections of the divine image, including our own? How can we move our community from narrowness to freedom?

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Episode 32: Sharing Jewish Joy with Tony J. Westbrook, Jr.
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Episode 32: Sharing Jewish Joy with Tony J. Westbrook, Jr.

Today we’re excited to share our interview with Jewish educator and social media influencer extraordinaire, Tony J. Westbrook, Jr. You might know him better as @frumjewishblackboy if you’re one of his 39k+ followers on TikTok or Instagram (and if you aren’t yet, we highly recommend it!) Tony talks about the questions that led him on his Jewish journey, blessings as intentions, wisdom as liturgy, combating social media junk with Jewish joy, and more. So take a listen- it’s only 49 TikToks long!

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Episode 31:  Achat Sha’alti (with Chava Mirel)
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Episode 31: Achat Sha’alti (with Chava Mirel)

From the start of the month of Elul through the fall holidays, it is customary to say Psalm 27. This “psalm for the days of awe” is full of evocative imagery, poetry, and a seemingly unshakable protagonist. But in this week’s episode, we are diving deep into just one line- verse 4, also known as “Achat Sha’alti.” What is this “one thing I ask?” Why is this line so popular, and how do different melodies shape our understanding? And speaking of song, we are blessed to be joined by musician and mindfulness teacher Chava Mirel, who shares her insights and takes us behind the music. Listen to her melody (and many more) on this week’s praylist!

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Episode 30: Not a “T’fillah Person” (with Maharat Rori Picker Neiss and Rabbi Shai Held-live at Ramah Darom)
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Episode 30: Not a “T’fillah Person” (with Maharat Rori Picker Neiss and Rabbi Shai Held-live at Ramah Darom)

This week we’re excited to share a double-interview recorded live at the Ramah Darom Pesach retreat this past spring. Maharat Rori Picker Neiss is the Executive Director of the Jewish Community Relations Council of St. Louis and an inspiring activist and advocate. Rabbi Shai Held is president and dean of the Hadar Institute and a foremost theologian, scholar, and teacher. Neither of thought they had much to say about liturgy or prayer. I would disagree! Our guests explore prayerfulness, history, Jewish parenting, t’fillah education, synagogues, the post/mid-covid world, and more. It’s a reminder that not all people feel the most “prayerful” in prayer, and that Jewish life contains multitudes. So take a listen, even if you don’t think of yourself as a “t’fillah person” either :)

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Episode 22: Freeze-Dried Experience (with Rabbi Sid Schwarz)
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Episode 22: Freeze-Dried Experience (with Rabbi Sid Schwarz)

Rabbi Sid Schwarz has started impactful organizations, written insightful books, and led many groups of Jews to greater meaning and personal engagement with Judaism. We are so grateful to share this interview full of gems, from Rabbi Sid’s social justice work, to his “davenning out of the box” experience, to what he sees for the Jewish future, all connected to t’fillah.

How can you internalize your prayer and hold it out to the world?

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Episode 20: Permission to Befriend the Text (with Daphna Rosenberg)
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Episode 20: Permission to Befriend the Text (with Daphna Rosenberg)

This week, we are grateful to share this conversation with Daphna Rosenberg, one of the founders, composers, and leaders of the Nava Tehila prayer community in Jerusalem. Daphna’s journey takes us around the world and home again, with so much wisdom along the way, including a master class in creating and holding safe space for vulnerability through prayer. Daphna and Nava Tehila have transformed how liberal Jewish communities pray over the past 17 years; think of this like behind-the-music, but for t’fillah!

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Episode 18: Siddur as Work of Art (with Rabbi Elie Kaunfer)
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Episode 18: Siddur as Work of Art (with Rabbi Elie Kaunfer)

It's an honor to share our interview with Rabbi Elie Kaunfer, president and CEO of the Hadar Institute. Rabbi Kaunfer is an incredible teacher, author, and liturgist. In fact, we’ve quoted him on the podcast many times- if you’ve ever heard us say “intertext,” we learned that from him! Rabbi Kaunfer shows us how so much of the siddur is made up of quotes from our sacred texts. Looking at those lines in their original context can deepen our understanding of the liturgy itself. He’s currently working on a book applying the intertext model to the whole Amidah, and shares some of those gems in this episode. We hope this “news you can use” sparks new meaning for your t’fillah!

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Episode 14: Listen to the Siddur (with Rabbi Steve Sager)
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Episode 14: Listen to the Siddur (with Rabbi Steve Sager)

Grateful to share another meaningful conversation with Rabbi Steve Sager. If you haven’t gotten a chance, listen back to episode 12 for our first interview. In this continuation, Rabbi Sager reflects on t’fillah through his own life, including his upbringing, his encounter with Mordecai Kaplan, and his path to Rabbinical school. Plus we continue to explore blessings, play and imagination, praying in English, and what it means to listen to the siddur.

What are the moments that make your breath catch in your throat? Where is your wonder?

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Episode 12: Prayer is not so Linear (with Rabbi Steve Sager)
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Episode 12: Prayer is not so Linear (with Rabbi Steve Sager)

This week’s episode was a difficult one to title- throughout my interview with the wise and compassionate Rabbi Steve Sager, he brought to light so many beautiful facets of t’fillah: what t’fillah means, is, and can be; what it takes to lead t’fillah; the “joyful reunion” of prayer and liturgy; what ritual requires; and g?d as the impulse to live. Rabbi Sager is a scholar of prayer, poetry, Rabbinic literature, and the art of conversation, and this is our first of many. Take a breath, listen in, and see where it takes you.

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Episode 10: Why Worship? (with Cantor Rosalie Will)
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Episode 10: Why Worship? (with Cantor Rosalie Will)

We’re so blessed to welcome the amazing Cantor Rosalie Will to the Light Lab! In this episode, Eliana and Rosalie explore what worship is, why it matters, and how better questions can elevate prayer communities. Plus we sing the praises of the songleading and music conference Hava Nashira, and Rosalie introduces her brand new nonprofit Sing Unto God.

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